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From: Wagner

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Date: 1/11/2026 11:58:38 AM
Wagner College
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Progress of match organizing process, updateable team list for Season 4:

All managers note:
BC Rajaleidjad (BCR) will replace Svätý Jur Snakers HAD on Season 4.


Listing of match organizing progress:

Wagner College *GTG*
Les Gueux du Marais *GTG*
Elan Demars *GTG*
BC Eos *GTG*
Freccia Azzurra *GTG*
Madrid Chotis *GTG*
WiMaOlca *GTG*
Rajdersi (BP:OK) *Missing match link on RS Round 17; please correct ASAP!*
Vilniaus „Vilkai“ *GTG*
Hårdboll *GTG*
Lielupes Melnas Sirdis *GTG*
Virtus Portici *GTG*
KK Stihija *GTG*
Club Trouville *GTG*
Alanurmon Rikkaat *GTG*
Vindicta *GTG*
Homegrown Kings *GTG*
BC Rajaleidjad *GTG*



Abbreviations used on the table above:
(BP:OK)= own box score post for Season 4 created
S4S:OK= season 4 schedule; all match links sent to own box score post (which are not yet verified by league Commissioner)
*GTG*= team good to go for Season 4, because all above done, plus league Commissioner has confirmed/verified that match days and times are correct.-post)

Please note:
Svätý Jur Snakers (HAD) will not participate on Season 4 (withdrawal notice sent on January 14th).

His team will be replaced by BC Rajaleidjad (BCR), and you are going to play against BCR during Season 4 Regular Season on the day you were supposed to play against Svätý Jur Snakers (HAD).
Example:
My match against HAD on Season 4 was scheduled on Monday 16th of February. On that day I will play against BCR (BC Rajaleidjad).
Also note, that as I was only team that did organize match against HAD at correct time, I can't play my HGL match against BCR at the correct time; that's the reason for 3PM EET match time.

Last edited by Wagner at 1/26/2026 4:23:13 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 1/11/2026 11:59:36 AM
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TBA #17

Important note on organizing Season 4 matches:

I have already noticed two matches being organized at a wrong time, so in the case this would be a wider problem, I remind you all again that you use official designated match time for each team (official local time, meaning your local time) when organizing matches.

This will change for 1 hour from season to another, depending on Daylight Savings Time-cycles.
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When DST is not observed in EET time zone when season begins, Official HGL match time is your local equivalent of 14.30PM EET (Normal Time) which is the case for Season 4.
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When DST is observed in EET time zone when season begins, match time is 15.30PM EET DST (Daylight Savings Time).

I quote my Announcement posts:

For each team an Official Local Time is provided, which they use when sending PU match invitations. Found (before team name), here: (329502.12).
Use only this time given to your team specifically, and nothing else, when organizing (also when accepting!) Pickup matches!



Let's take one example that I saw:
- VPO-EOS is organized at 15.30 a.k.a. 3.30PM EET; this is 1 hour too late, it needs to be reorganized.
Note: if you have sent more match requests at that faulty time, please cancel them now so tokens are not lost.

- when either of team takes a look at above link (with match times), they notice this time is not correct, as they should send and accept challenges only at that time, that is designated time for their team:

- in other words, LennuK. (EOS) should send and accept Season 4 challenges at 02.30PM (and see those accepted matches being played at that time, when they look at their teams' "regular BB schedule" or friendly matches-page, in where pending match offers can be seen).
For VPO on the other hand, this local time that they see in the friendly matches-page (and eventually on regular BB schedule) would be 01.30PM, because they are 1 hour behind EET time zone.

Example:
When I send challenge, I send it on Season 4 at 2.30PM my time (which is time that I see on post #12 that is linked above and below).
When for example VPO sees it in his friendly matches page, this time appears to him as 01.30PM, which would be correct, because
A) this is the time that he sees in this table (and in participating teams-posts): (329502.12)
B) it's also logical because Italy is 1 hour behind EET time zone, which is a reference time zone in HGL.
(Your local time differences compared to EET time zone are represented in participating teams-posts on both threads, 3rd posts, before the team name and = sign; however, use time on that table, or table linked on A) above when you organize matches.

Always ask if you're unsure of the time, so that we don't end up losing lots of tokens.

Last edited by Wagner at 1/14/2026 6:30:28 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 1/11/2026 12:00:03 PM
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@ all managers, important notice:
I've noticed some confusion on match times on Season 4.

Please see which time your match is being played by referring to this post:
(329502.12). You would be able to find the same information also from "participating teams"-posts.


This information has been mentioned in official threads probably for tens of times over seasons on different posts, and has been part of the Official Rules since March 2025.

Few of the possible remedies for the future are:
A) check time from those places season by season without making assumptions
B) maybe I could send everyone first round of challenges (I send challenges to all of my games), so that people would then get a correct match time for that season.

Please don't send challenges to Hadár (Svätý Jur Snakers, abbreviation HAD) at the moment as he is likely withdrawing from Season 4.

Last edited by Wagner at 1/14/2026 8:38:38 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 1/12/2026 5:06:37 AM
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TBA #19

From: Wagner

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Date: 1/12/2026 5:06:46 AM
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TBA #20

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329501.21 in reply to 329501.18
Date: 1/14/2026 9:28:36 AM
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Hey all, unfortunately, I have messed up some match challenge times. I have sent everyone new challenges. Sorry for this misunderstanding.

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Date: 1/14/2026 5:51:47 PM
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Hi all,
I'm away with limited possibilities.
I should be back on monday and take care of everything.

Sorry for delay.

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Date: 1/15/2026 1:02:08 PM
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Hi all,
I'm away with limited possibilities.
I should be back on monday and take care of everything.

Sorry for delay.

Thanks for letting us know, I appreciate it.
We should be ok, as long as those matches have been organized at the right time (14.30EET=13.30 Polish time), and don't need to be organized again!

From: Spela

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Date: 1/15/2026 2:19:41 PM
Hårdboll
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Please correct me.

At my place in sweden I should always see the challenge with the correct time for me?

I get some 12:30 and 14:30 so I send them time is wrong.

I should always see the correct challenge as 13:30?

From: Wagner

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Date: 1/16/2026 5:57:00 AM
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Please correct me.

At my place in sweden I should always see the challenge with the correct time for me?

I get some 12:30 and 14:30 so I send them time is wrong.

I should always see the correct challenge as 13:30?

Yes, on Season 4 where Regular Season match time is 14.30 EET, you should see all challenges at 13.30 your time (because Sweden is 1 hour back from EET time zone).

This is exactly what time in front of your team name on participating teams-posts (third post on both official threads) and this following post refers into: (329502.12).
In other words, whenever you send challenge, you send it at that time that shows in front of your team name.
Also, whenever you receive a challenge, same goes with that - you need to check that time in that received challenge is same as what you can see before your team name (and not in front of your opponent's team name).

This way we all play at the same time, just like it's supposed to be.

(For Season 5 for example this will once again change into 15.30 EET DST, because of Daylight Savings Time will be applied when Season 5 is started, but that's a different story - I'm just reminding of all of you about that already).

Spela, now that I checked (January 16th at 12.30PM), all your challenges show up at the correct time in your box score post: 14.30EET, a.k.a. 02.30PM EET.

Like I mentioned, one of the ways that could lessen the confusion for further seasons could be to wait that I send all challenges, and then you can check what is the exact time that you see in your schedule for our match; this will be the correct time for all your that Season RS matches (unless I make a mistake myself, of course).

Another necessary remedy is to check out participating teams-posts before every Season's match organization process, and I've also had a habit of adding the same condensed information on these posts, Season after Season: (329502.12)
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Last edited by Wagner at 1/16/2026 5:58:39 AM

From: Wagner

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Date: 1/17/2026 9:39:22 AM
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As for a Season 4 pre-season update:
Almost all teams have created a box score post for themselves, and some even have added all match links.
As usual, I haven't added match links to my own post as long as everyone has created their own post.

As for amount of participating teams for Season 4, Hadár (Svätý Jur Snakers, HAD) announced on 14th of January, that he won't be joining for HGL Season 4.

And it's been 3 days and Hadár hasn't cancelled his withdrawal notice (by sending me BBMail),
so as for now, we are either going to:

A) run HGL Season 4 with 17 teams (current opponent of HAD would not play on that round=BYE), or

B) hopefully will get a replacement team as soon as on Season 4; negotiations have been going on, but the manager in question hasn't yet logged in after my recent participation confirmation request. Or

C) IF option B) fails, and IF Hadár would for some reason end up canceling his withdrawal from Season 4, then we can proceed with organizing matches against HAD. If C) fails, then we end up choosing A).


I would be cautiously positive that we're able to add a new-to-HGL team for Season 4, and whenever that is confirmed, I'll let all of you know about it.

If we're able to add 18th team, then all of you would challenge this new team on the same day when you should've met HAD in the first place, so please be ready to send/accept match offers soon for that day, if situation changes (participation is confirmed by new team).


As for challenging responsibilities for the possible new team, I'm unaware (but have asked) about his current token amount, so those would also be clarified later.

What we need to consider though, is that how many matches did Hadár already organized for Season 4 at 14.30 EET. This could be important because if we replace HAD with another one, then those matches against new opponent can't/shouldn''t probably take place at the same time (it might not work/could cause problems if simultaneous PU matches are played).

I know he accepted my request at 14.30 EET, but the question is, did he accept other ones as well at that same time (of course on appropriate days).

Last edited by Wagner at 1/17/2026 9:42:03 AM

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