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Normal tokens for me. Not 'lessen'.
Been on the upper parts of token usage.
So asking for normal will be the same (high usage)?

Regarding tokens, I can challenge every game as far as I'm concerned.

As for schedule change, I don't care, but for the sake of competition, count my vote as IN FAVOR OF change!

Hi,

new schedule please, plenty of tokens available.

You can keep me as a volunteer for challenging matches, I still have plenty of tokens, so I could easily challenge all games if necessary.

Regarding the changing schedule: I personally don't really have a strong opinion about it. Although, I do believe that some change into the reoccurring pattern of opponents everybody has season by season could provide interesting results and different approaches from coaches. So, yes, if I had to choose, I would welcome a changing schedule, if it doesn't add lots of extra work.

I have no problem with the proposed change. I just hope it doesn't make organizing the tournament more difficult for Wagner, who already has a lot of work to do.

It's thanks to Wagner that this tournament is going ahead; he's a great commissioner with a lot of passion.

That is a good point. I think that the change would be nice to have, but not at the expense of Wagner's overextension.

Normal tokens for me. Not 'lessen'.
Been on the upper parts of token usage.
So asking for normal will be the same (high usage)?

Yes, your team has definitely used lots of tokens compared to many other.
In your question, I guess it's a matter of determining what's "normal" amount of usage, but we don't need to determine that here.

So my point really was, that if for example you (you have been using more than average amount of tokens during last Seasons) or any other HGL manager feels like they can´t/don't want to use as many tokens (as they have been using during last Seasons), I can manually do some changes to HGL Season 4 schedule.

To put it in other words, I can even try to minimize your HGL token usage, if you need to have that done? Some teams are using very little amount of tokens, so "normal" or "low" usage of tokens would be less than what you have used.

(Like I mentioned, actual amounts for high, normal or low usage have not been determined, but we can alter challenging responsibilities depending on exact requests by managers - if one for example says "could I please only use 5 tokens per HGL Regular Season", then I'll try to change some challenging responsibilities. So far I have not received any such clear requests).

Last edited by Wagner at 1/5/2026 7:47:40 AM

That is a good point. I think that the change would be nice to have, but not at the expense of Wagner's overextension.

Thanks very much for your message, I definitely appreciate you being so considerate (which is not the first time - it's a joy to have managers like you in our community!).

I think the consensus on schedule change (RS match order change) seems to be so strong, that it would be good idea to change schedule a bit for Season 4 (see "1.", below).
It shouldn't be too difficult (or hopefully turn out as an arduous) of a project, however, it still needs to be done methodically and precisely, so that I'm not messing up the whole schedule.

Also, LennuK. have earlier offered his help on schedule based duties, if necessary. This time around (once again) it seems 16 teams will participate for Season 4, so complete overhaul of schedule (basically creating completely new one) isn't necessary, but we can only change place of match blocks, which will effectively shuffle the HGL schedule.
Of course new team, Alanurmon Rikkaat (from Finland) will join us for Season 4, and Suuret Muinaiset will exit HGL (at least for now - I hope they'll join HGL again later!), but replacing 1 team with another can be quite easily implemented.

Thank you all managers that have commented on both questions,
1. HGL schedule change for Season 4 (match block changes to different Regular Season Rounds, compared to first 3 HGL Seasons)
2. Token usage requests for Season 4, and possibly beyond that (confirmation that their teams' token usage for HGL Regular Season doesn't need to be lowered)


Everyone are still encouraged to comment on both questions.

And I remind everyone, that if you don't want to use as many tokens for HGL Season 4 match organizing, now it's time to tell us/me about it that change(s) on challenging responsibilities can be made to HGL schedule in time.

An mentioned earlier, many on us have good situation with tokens and are willing to keep on being "token/challenging volunteers", and it actually would enable us to edit those Pickup match challenging responsibilities so that one could participate to HGL Season with only very/quite low token usage (if needed).

Last edited by Wagner at 1/5/2026 8:13:28 AM

I have no problem with the proposed change. I just hope it doesn't make organizing the tournament more difficult for Wagner, who already has a lot of work to do.

It's thanks to Wagner that this tournament is going ahead; he's a great commissioner with a lot of passion.

Thank you for your comments, and being considerate on this! As for changing schedule (by not completely creating new one) shouldn't be loads of work on paper, but I've learned to become cautious on giving comments before actually doing the stuff, only that will eventually tell how much work something creates.

Having said that, as everybody have given either neutral/in favor of change, or in favor of change-opinion on schedule, we can implement that for Season 4 (and then by doing it'll become apparent if it's a breeze to do also for further seasons). :)

I wrote (very) short match reports on Final and Bronze matches on Scores Thread (328547.154), and I won't repeat the same message here, but want to congratulate all HGL medalists on Season 3!

Results in terms of medal winners were a mirror image of Season 2, so now Svätý Jur Snakers is still first in HGL medal table (with 7 points; 1 gold and 2 silver medals), and Virtus Portici is second with 6 points (2 consecutive championships in as many seasons).

But to not make this a medal only-centered discussion (as there are teams in HGL that aren't yet on the level that's required to reach a medal realistically), it's also worth noting, that KKS also deserves a honorable mention as a Bronze medal runner-up.
Also, I think that while win is something everyone is looking for at the end of the day (or at the end/peak of the many season stretch), we shouldn't forget to set our eyes now and then to many strong "middle ground/level teams" in HGL, who have very strong and respectable teams, even though they'd not currently have a team that can fight for HGL championship.

While this is very apparent, I'll still say this: we all know how difficult it can be to create a successful HG team, and luckily it seems that many of us enjoy the project and participating to HGL even if they would know medal would realistically be out of their reach during next Season.

As I've said many times before, at least for me HGL is much more than just about medals, and very important part is our HGL community. It's about being part of the community, HGL hopefully helping to connect some HG managers meanwhile (or at least serve as a central hub into which everyone can participate as much or as little as they want, in addition to official HGL team duties), growing your HG team withing a supporting community, and getting to compare your current success against other fellow managers. So thank you all HG managers, for being part of HGL story... :)

Last edited by Wagner at 1/5/2026 8:45:20 AM

ok for me for the token too, i can challenge all the game if you need

I have no problem with the proposed change. I just hope it doesn't make organizing the tournament more difficult for Wagner, who already has a lot of work to do.

There's also and additional challenge with my team finances, which has been created by my attempt on creating a team with 100 own draftees. I'm in the verge of reaching 99 (after next draft), but I´m more than half a million in debt right now, so I'm in deep waters currently.

I can't even recall how bankruptcy calculations/procedure goes, even though I've fought with that in the past.

Any good tips are appreciated on how to solve this the best way (other than selling players, at least many, as that would effectively ruin my goal of 100 draftees - of course selling any of my best players would also make me considerably weaker in the regular BB league, and as I can't afford to be relegated next season, selling my best players isn't really a good option either). Just shared this with you guys, as obviously I can't let my team get into a bankruptcy as it would ruin it all, but also it's a long time goal and it's not good to let go of that if not absolutely necessary... sometimes also you can't seem to see the apparent solution yourself, so that's also why I shared this with you guys.

Last edited by Wagner at 1/5/2026 8:56:25 AM