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315655.1
Date: 07/27/2022 09:13:12
TripB
II.4
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What does everyone think of consolidation? Division 4 just became much much harder which is bad imo

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315655.2 in reply to 315655.1
Date: 07/27/2022 12:29:24
mamelete
IV.46
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Making the 4 division more difficult is only going to increase the number of players leaving the game.

Yo no pacto, nos vemos en las canchas.
From: str77

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315655.3 in reply to 315655.2
Date: 07/27/2022 13:39:11
Xeftilaikos
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Making the 4 division more difficult is only going to increase the number of players leaving the game.


I dont agree. Managers left the game because it has no fun to be in the last league of your country. Playing just against bots is boring.

From: Grabby

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315655.4 in reply to 315655.3
Date: 07/27/2022 13:43:03
Blue Vikings
III.1
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Big Horn Sheep
Agreed. When I joined D. IV was full with human teams. I loved the real competition and learning the ins and outs against real players. Took me 12 seasons to get out and then another 16 in Div 3 and here I am still playing.

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315655.5 in reply to 315655.4
Date: 07/29/2022 09:10:58
TripB
II.4
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Ha most people arent like that. I can’t imagine starting out in todays D4. Lose every game…

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315655.6 in reply to 315655.5
Date: 07/29/2022 09:25:38
Xeftilaikos
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Ha most people arent like that. I can’t imagine starting out in todays D4. Lose every game…


Newbies will play against newbies plus some bots, nobody will lose every game. Watching your team playing against a competitve team has always more fun than playing against bots. But this is just my opinion

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315655.7 in reply to 315655.2
Date: 07/29/2022 10:14:57
Coos Bay Cougars
III.7
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Central Town Chihuahuas
Respectfully I disagree. Nothing keeps me more invested like friends to play with. If I want to win every game and play against bots ill go play 2k. I want the thrill of trying something tactically or catching some D3 fallen giant napping and win by the skin of my teeth.

Plus, I interviewed 5 of the last 6 managers to promote out of my old league before consolidation. All 5 relegated right away.
Now promoted teams will be ready to compete when we get to D3.

The doctor is in...
From: velnes

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315655.8 in reply to 315655.2
Date: 07/29/2022 11:52:23
FK “Šturmas”
IV.19
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bs, I played in the most boring IV'th division last season where I went 21-1, by basically not doing anything with the team, lost in the finals and that's that, the only thing interesting was training, which has nothing to do with the divisions. This year post consolidation I am in an interesting league, and I now have to invest my money smartly in terms of having a tactical plan, in order to win it. now you tell me that what is making people leave the game is playing the whole season up to the finals against bots instead playing again real players?

Last edited by velnes at 07/29/2022 11:53:07

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315655.9 in reply to 315655.7
Date: 07/29/2022 15:23:13
mamelete
IV.46
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I understand your point of view but you understand that it is not the only one. There are many teams that have suddenly found themselves in much more competitive leagues than before. I think they should've consolidated leagues more slowly based on promotion and relegation and not so wildly.

In others forums there are teams compalining

Yo no pacto, nos vemos en las canchas.
From: BFaye

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315655.10 in reply to 315655.2
Date: 07/30/2022 00:37:38
Pearl City
IV.17
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The problem that I see is this. With D4 being much more competitive, they should have increased weekly TV and attendance for D4 teams, which are always low. Now teams will not make enough money to be able to rebuild. They will get stuck in the endless cycle, where as before, you could reset against bots, and then get back to competition after one boring season against bots. It gave teams a chance to rebuild and get their fans back into the team again. Now that will be all but impossible. If you aren’t competitive in your D4, you will lose even more money, leading people to quitting the game.

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315655.11 in reply to 315655.10
Date: 07/31/2022 06:20:49
Hénin Basket Club
III.13
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1313
As a returning player, I prefered my old league with half bots rather than the new one full of new managers trying to compete from day one. But my reflexion is only based on an economic point of view as I want to rebuild infrastructures and arena as fast as possible.
I really think "real" new managers would prefer the new system with managers of their level rather than bots.

Last edited by Aquarius at 07/31/2022 06:21:28