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He's worth it. I trained him so hard!

He can be worth it, but I would not buy a new player for the next 3 seasons if there was not the announcement for the max cap of 15 mil

First of all, I've never been the type of player to collect money for tens of seasons. I like trying to be the best I can each season because I don't find being bad or average for 10 seasons to be fun. Winning is fun, even if that just means winning III or II divisions every now and then. Every time I get to the top division I realize that I'm nowhere near to being able to compete, cause people can just absorb massive losses for a season or two, since they have 10-20 mil to spend. Many pro sports leagues have implemented rules for that reason to prevent money=winning.

B3 is just a competition of who can absorb more losses for longer. Salary cap is needed. Even top division feels like that. I have negative income but I'm nowhere close to competing for a single win in playoffs, even making playoffs is a struggle.

Also never been a fan of meta tactics and I've tried winning in other ways if possible, although sometimes there's just no way around it.

IMO, salary changes made this season should stay, along with the planned 3-2 zone nerf. No single tactic should work against every other tactic. We shouldn't have to wait for years for these changes just because some players have planned their game around this meta. There have always been changes and there always will be, that is the way of life. Some of us win, some of us lose from these changes. If you lose, you adapt and revise your plans.

Hoarding tax I agree would be harsh if dropped from 25 mil to 15 in one season, but gradually lowering it over 4-5 seasons would be the way. Do people IRL just let the money on their bank account sit and expect it to be worth the same in 10-20 years? No, because inflation exists, things change etc.


Just my 2 cents on some of this. Also I'm gonna go look up what this "elastic effect" is cause I can't remember reading about it. :D

Nice point mate 👌

I think 3-2 to be nerfed doesn't need much.

Increase IS salary on guards.

Increase SB salary on defensive players.

Distribute more inside shots against the 3 players defending outside in the 3-2 zone, since almost every inside shot goes against the 2 defenders, this way there would be many more matchups of outside players with low ID having to defend high IS shots.

I posted this on the Discord but figured I'd crosspost here since I don't know where real discussion takes place anymore.

3–2 zone: The planned nerf will not be implemented.

3-2 zone is so OP I haven't run any other defense for multiple seasons, of all the things to roll over on why that?

the salary changes were a bit aggressive, the hoarding tax change was sudden/unfair in a long term planning game, elastic effect is hard for players to understand

but 3-2 zone, here are some stats from the first round of B3:
blowouts
3-2Z: 21 (all wins or mutual where both teams ran 3-2)
2-3Z: 6 (all desperation losses)
M2M: 4
IBox: 1


real games
3-2Z: 23
M2M: 3
OBox: 3
1-3-1: 1
2-3Z: 1
IBox: 1

those are the defensive strategies used, you can't tell me that's healthy.
especially if the salary changes are rolled back, 3-2 is out of control.

This is a ridiculous U-turn. There will always be different voices whenever a change is made

Thank you for giving your suggestions in such a clear way. I see it the same way. I don’t understand what is so complicated about it. Furthermore, the distribution you are proposing is exactly what happens when you defend 3-2 zone in real life: except for the one on the top center, the other two have to cover the middle when the ball is on the other side, so they may find themselves occasionally defending inside shots when the ball is moved quickly or when another defender gets beaten

I think 3-2 to be nerfed doesn't need much.

Increase IS salary on guards.

Increase SB salary on defensive players.

Distribute more inside shots against the 3 players defending outside in the 3-2 zone, since almost every inside shot goes against the 2 defenders, this way there would be many more matchups of outside players with low ID having to defend high IS shots.

Thats it, simple.

3-2 zone in general cant be good against LI/LP.
2-3 zone should be great against LI/LP too.

I think not only they would keep the $25M, but extending it to $100M or more going fwd.